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  • centMD
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    • May 2013
    • 714

    #1

    1909 WDDR-020

    This coin was listed by John Wexler as WDDR-020. I did a poor job of showing the doubling here but I do show all the markers I could find.
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  • jfines69
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    • Jun 2010
    • 28504

    #2
    Nice find... 3 new listings... Way to go!!!
    Jim
    (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

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    • Chugly
      Member
      • Aug 2011
      • 2358

      #3
      Great work and thank you so much for adding to our collective knowledge!! I have several 1909-P DDR's that have been giving me fits to attribute. Hopefully one of these will help me match them up!

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      • duece2seven
        Member
        • Feb 2013
        • 1567

        #4
        I think your pics look great. The devices on these seem flatter than others years to me and simply don't show up as well. The doubling is there but I could see how people miss this one if they don't pick up on the dot quickly. Nice find!

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        • centMD
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          • May 2013
          • 714

          #5
          Originally posted by Chugly
          Great work and thank you so much for adding to our collective knowledge!! I have several 1909-P DDR's that have been giving me fits to attribute. Hopefully one of these will help me match them up!
          I hope you are able to match them up! I believe I have another to send in that I can't identify plus I have a dozen or so to try to attribute. The 1909 DDRs have quickly become my favorite year.
          Last edited by centMD; 06-03-2016, 11:45 AM.

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          • centMD
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            • May 2013
            • 714

            #6
            This coin is also listed by coppercoins. It is 1909P-1DR-002 as shown below. That listing can be seen at http://www.coppercoins.com/lincoln/d...&die_state=mds

            Note that the example above is an earlier die state coin than the coin on coppercoins. It does not have the die crack through the right wheat stalk.

            However, matches for markers include the following. Left wheat tip - die crack is present on both coins toward the rim. Motto - curved die scratch from the upper left portion of U toward B in PLURIBUS. There is also a long die crack from the base of the bust that curves up and right through the bust. This is illustrated with a GIF that shows both the coin in Wexler's WDDO-020 listing, as well as an edited photo taken from the coppercoins website. This is used with Bob's permission and can be seen unedited at the above link. Note that I had some difficulty alligning the photos so the coins don't match up perfectly in the GIF.

            Image 1909 WDDR 020 and 1DR 002 in Centmd's images album


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            • jfines69
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              • Jun 2010
              • 28504

              #7
              Thanks for the update... I do have 1 question - The crack off the west stalk on your coin appears jagged and the one on CC appears straight??? It may be the lighting on the CC pic???
              Jim
              (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

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              • centMD
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                • May 2013
                • 714

                #8
                Originally posted by jfines69
                Thanks for the update... I do have 1 question - The crack off the west stalk on your coin appears jagged and the one on CC appears straight??? It may be the lighting on the CC pic???
                My thought would be that since the CC photo is not in focus for that crack, it is simply able to show the location of the crack but not the fine details. It could also have thickened over time as the die was used, altering the appearance subtly.

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                • jfines69
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                  • Jun 2010
                  • 28504

                  #9
                  Originally posted by centMD
                  My thought would be that since the CC photo is not in focus for that crack, it is simply able to show the location of the crack but not the fine details. It could also have thickened over time as the die was used, altering the appearance subtly.
                  Very true... Thanks for the quick response... I appreciate it!!!
                  Jim
                  (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

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