1960D SD RPM needing help!

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  • VAB2013
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    • Nov 2013
    • 12351

    #1

    1960D SD RPM needing help!

    Well guys, sorry but I have done all I know to do with this one. I haven't soaked in it acetone yet because it really doesn't need it but I am going to try that and see if the split serifs will show up better and if so try to get a better pic.

    Not sure if that is a split serif on the top of the MM but after going to all the ones with just lower splits, I also checked all of the listings for upper and lower and still could not find this one. Help please!

    These 60D SD's have a lot of die chips, thought that might help narrow it down, but no...

    Thank you all for looking and helping!

    Edit: There are no die scratches on this coin, makes for a real eggnogger!
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  • Roller
    Member
    • Feb 2010
    • 6968

    #2
    There is a top and bottom split. I don't attribute my own 1960 Ds so can't help you there Viv. Good luck. Larry may be up to it though.

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    • VAB2013
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      • Nov 2013
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      #3
      Originally posted by Roller
      There is a top and bottom split. I don't attribute my own 1960 Ds so can't help you there Viv. Good luck. Larry may be up to it though.
      Thank you Roller! Your confirmation of the top split will help me know which ones to look at closer!

      Yeah, I'm hoping Larry J. and Jim or some of the other guys might be familiar with the die chip and die crack.

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      • makecents
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        • Jun 2017
        • 11012

        #4
        Wow Viv!! That is one good looking coin!! That's good and bad I guess. I think I'll wait until one of the big dawgs chimes in, because I cannot believe that chip between the T and Y would not be a dead giveaway for those in the know!

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        • VAB2013
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          • Nov 2013
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          #5
          Originally posted by makecents
          Wow Viv!! That is one good looking coin!! That's good and bad I guess. I think I'll wait until one of the big dawgs chimes in, because I cannot believe that chip between the T and Y would not be a dead giveaway for those in the know!
          Thank you Jon! While we wait, I'm going back through the ones on coppercoins, variety vista and wexler with splits on top and bottom.

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          • mustbebob
            Lincoln Cent Variety Expert
            • Jul 2008
            • 12756

            #6
            That one is easy. It's 1960D-1MM-345527 1/2
            Bob Piazza
            Former Lincoln Cent Attributer Coppercoins.com

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            • VAB2013
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              • Nov 2013
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              #7
              Originally posted by mustbebob
              That one is easy. It's 1960D-1MM-345527 1/2
              Oh Bob, you had me going for a second! Hope this doesn't mean it going to be a hard one to figure out

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              • makecents
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                • Jun 2017
                • 11012

                #8
                Originally posted by mustbebob
                That one is easy. It's 1960D-1MM-345527 1/2
                I'm not sure if that is a good or bad sign! I dove in a couple of minutes after I said I would wait. I making notes as I go but am coming up emty...

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                • makecents
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                  • Jun 2017
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                  #9
                  Question for future reference. Do splits get wider with die wear?

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                  • VAB2013
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                    • Nov 2013
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by makecents
                    I'm not sure if that is a good or bad sign! I dove in a couple of minutes after I said I would wait. I making notes as I go but am coming up emty...
                    I know Jon, it nice though when Bob can make us laugh about RPM's... that's why eggnog is "attributed" to Bob in the Glossary. Can you imagine having his job?!

                    Yes, I keep coming up empty too but we don't give up that easy around here! I think the position of the splits is what's messing with me, better pics showing location of splits would probably help, trying...

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                    • VAB2013
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                      • Nov 2013
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by makecents
                      Question for future reference. Do splits get wider with die wear?
                      Good question, I don't know.

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                      • VAB2013
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                        • Nov 2013
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                        #12
                        Here's a little bit better pic of the RPM, I think the acetone helped clean whatever gunk was in those split serifs.
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                        • centMD
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                          • May 2013
                          • 714

                          #13
                          Here you go, yours is a D/D/D. WRPM-149 matches perfectly. Yours is a little bit later die state than Brian Ribar's example as it has the large die gouge/break on the CE of CENT but not the die chip between TY of LIBERTY. Additionally, your die scratches south of the 9 are weaker, but still identifiable.

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                          • VAB2013
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                            • Nov 2013
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by centMD
                            Here you go, yours is a D/D/D. WRPM-149 matches perfectly. Yours is a little bit later die state than Brian Ribar's example as it has the large die gouge/break on the CE of CENT but not the die chip between TY of LIBERTY. Additionally, your die scratches south of the 9 are weaker, but still identifiable.

                            https://www2.briansvarietycoins.com/shop/view/118
                            Awesome Dan! Thank you so much! I would not have seen this as a D/D/D, appreciate your help very much!!!

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                            • VAB2013
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                              • Nov 2013
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                              #15
                              Dan, I wanted to determine what Stage it is and could not get to Wexler's listing for the WRPM-149 D/D/D Tilted, page one for that section would not open. Is it the same as Variety Vista SM 1960D RPM 104? If it is, I'm thinking it's late Stage B.

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