1986D - could it possibly be a D/D rotated CCW?

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  • VAB2013
    Forum Ambassador
    • Nov 2013
    • 12351

    #1

    1986D - could it possibly be a D/D rotated CCW?

    Just ran across this extremely shiny 86D and thought the MM looked interesting and it could be MD but I thought I better ask you guys! It's so shiny that I cannot focus! much less try to get a pic of the RPM! Did the best I could under the circumstances. I turned different lights on, then off, moved lamps around, opened windows, turned off all of the lights! Here's what we got!

    While taking the obverse photo, I saw what looked like very faint column clash marks at the jaw/beard area. Then I investigated and there looks to be a very faint one in column 3 but could not see anything else on this shiny fella with today's weather forecast

    Oh.. Variety Vista lists a D/D Rotated CW - Here
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  • mustbebob
    Lincoln Cent Variety Expert
    • Jul 2008
    • 12756

    #2
    That's a great photo Viv. Unfortunately, any time you have damage to a device, you effectively remove the evidence needed to prove or disprove the variety. I see what may or may not be notches and what looks like scrapes on the higher portions of the MM. Unfortunately, you can not make a solid case for an RPM on this particular coin.
    Bob Piazza
    Former Lincoln Cent Attributer Coppercoins.com

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    • makecents
      Paid Member

      • Jun 2017
      • 11012

      #3
      Yours does appear to be a ccw RPM but there are no matches on any of the sites. Your mm is much higher than VV's 012 and yours also looks to have more clockwise tilt to it. If it's not too minor, I would say you have a new RPM!! Nice find Viv and great looking coin!!


      I spent so much time looking at all the listings, Bob took care of you already. Sorry Viv.
      Last edited by makecents; 09-20-2018, 12:55 PM.

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      • jfines69
        Paid Member

        • Jun 2010
        • 28504

        #4
        I'm with Bob on this... The damage is just to much to tell for sure... One to hang on to in case you come across another!!!

        Added - Did you check out Ken Potters http://koinpro.tripod.com/ErrorVarietyList.htm He could have listings for ones that others don't!!!
        Jim
        (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

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        • VAB2013
          Forum Ambassador
          • Nov 2013
          • 12351

          #5
          Originally posted by mustbebob
          That's a great photo Viv. Unfortunately, any time you have damage to a device, you effectively remove the evidence needed to prove or disprove the variety. I see what may or may not be notches and what looks like scrapes on the higher portions of the MM. Unfortunately, you can not make a solid case for an RPM on this particular coin.
          Thank you Bob for the photo compliment and for taking a look! I really appreciate your expertise and explanation! I'll just hang onto it in case another one shows up!

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          • VAB2013
            Forum Ambassador
            • Nov 2013
            • 12351

            #6
            Originally posted by makecents
            Yours does appear to be a ccw RPM but there are no matches on any of the sites. Your mm is much higher than VV's 012 and yours also looks to have more clockwise tilt to it. If it's not too minor, I would say you have a new RPM!! Nice find Viv and great looking coin!!


            I spent so much time looking at all the listings, Bob took care of you already. Sorry Viv.
            Thank you Jon, and it's okay. It was just one of those that makes you have to ask

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            • VAB2013
              Forum Ambassador
              • Nov 2013
              • 12351

              #7
              Originally posted by jfines69
              I'm with Bob on this... The damage is just to much to tell for sure... One to hang on to in case you come across another!!!

              Added - Did you check out Ken Potters http://koinpro.tripod.com/ErrorVarietyList.htm He could have listings for ones that others don't!!!
              Thank you Jim! I just looked at the Ken Potter link and didn't see anything for an 86, thanks for the link! Yes Sir, I will hang onto it in case another one shows up

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              • jfines69
                Paid Member

                • Jun 2010
                • 28504

                #8
                Cool... Thanks for the follow up... Got my fingers crossed you find one in better shape!!!
                Jim
                (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

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                • joel
                  Paid Member

                  • Feb 2014
                  • 7701

                  #9
                  You put a lot of time and effort into this post Vivien and I wish the result would have been better!!

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                  • VAB2013
                    Forum Ambassador
                    • Nov 2013
                    • 12351

                    #10
                    Originally posted by joel
                    You put a lot of time and effort into this post Vivien and I wish the result would have been better!!
                    Thank you Larry J! It's okay, it's all just part of learning and you guys around here are great teachers! This is THE BEST place on the internet to learn about Lincoln cents!!!

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