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  • TPring
    Paid Member

    • Sep 2017
    • 2574

    #1

    1945D DDO?

    I have been going through a tube of 45Ds and have a few that look like they might have light doubling and I would like to get some feedback on the possibility.

    I took a few pics that will hopefully show some key areas.

    In doing an overlay, it is very similar to DDO-2, but the MM on mine appears to be a sliver south and I did not see anything close on the other two sites.

    Thank you.
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  • GrumpyEd
    Member
    • Jan 2013
    • 7229

    #2
    I'd call it a decent class 6 DDO.
    It has a wide tail on the 9, curved spines on liberty and the ski ramp on the lower horizontal of E of we.
    That's enough for me.

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    • TPring
      Paid Member

      • Sep 2017
      • 2574

      #3
      Originally posted by GrumpyEd
      I'd call it a decent class 6 DDO.
      It has a wide tail on the 9, curved spines on liberty and the ski ramp on the lower horizontal of E of we.
      That's enough for me.

      Thanks Ed -- Those were some of the things I was seeing.

      It is just a bit frustrating not being able to find a match that allows identification. There are no photos for 1DO-6 & 1DO-7 and the descriptions both state they are lower than 1DO-3/DDO-10. Though mine seems closer to DDO-9.
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      • Petespockets55
        Paid Member

        • Dec 2014
        • 6869

        #4
        I'm sending any that can't be clearly ID'd to VV to be attributed. Let "them" put a label on it and at least get images for a new stage on the site for others to see (if it's not a new variety completely).

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        • makecents
          Paid Member

          • Jun 2017
          • 11012

          #5
          Nice job T, great pics!! Maybe a slight notch on the "R" in TRUST too? I run across 40's, often, that I feel like I see something going on but they are usually to circulated to tell for sure.

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          • TPring
            Paid Member

            • Sep 2017
            • 2574

            #6
            Originally posted by Petespockets55
            I'm sending any that can't be clearly ID'd to VV to be attributed. Let "them" put a label on it and at least get images for a new stage on the site for others to see (if it's not a new variety completely).

            That sounds like a good idea. Are the steps to take on his website? Can you explain the process a little?

            I think I have at least a few in this tube so, maybe send in more than one stage [if possible] once I figure out what I have?
            Last edited by TPring; 02-18-2020, 06:58 AM.
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            • joel
              Paid Member

              • Feb 2014
              • 7701

              #7
              Nice work on these T!! Like Jon, you don't miss a thing!! I admire that!! Well done!!

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              • mustbebob
                Lincoln Cent Variety Expert
                • Jul 2008
                • 12756

                #8
                This one may qualify as a 'Too minor to list' specimen. It all depends on the attributer. I personally wouldn't list it.
                Bob Piazza
                Former Lincoln Cent Attributer Coppercoins.com

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                • jfines69
                  Paid Member

                  • Jun 2010
                  • 28504

                  #9
                  Very interesting... Your pics are a little to washed out to tell for sure but I think you are correct for VVs 002??? Take a closer look at your date and compare the die scratches to Stage B... It looks like you have several that match??? Inside the 9, off the 4s angle bar and inside the 5s lower loop??? Yours may be an early Stage B??? The die scratches are not there on the Stage A or C!!!
                  Jim
                  (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

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                  • TPring
                    Paid Member

                    • Sep 2017
                    • 2574

                    #10
                    Originally posted by jfines69
                    Very interesting... Your pics are a little to washed out to tell for sure but I think you are correct for VVs 002??? Take a closer look at your date and compare the die scratches to Stage B... It looks like you have several that match??? Inside the 9, off the 4s angle bar and inside the 5s lower loop??? Yours may be an early Stage B??? The die scratches are not there on the Stage A or C!!!
                    Thanks, I just breezed through this tube looking for something obvious. I believe I saw some others similar to this to which I am going to take a closer look -- Possibly a different stage.
                    If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice -- Freewill

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                    • jfines69
                      Paid Member

                      • Jun 2010
                      • 28504

                      #11
                      Originally posted by TPring
                      Thanks, I just breezed through this tube looking for something obvious. I believe I saw some others similar to this to which I am going to take a closer look -- Possibly a different stage.
                      Cool... Thanks for the follow up... Good luck on the search!!!
                      Jim
                      (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

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                      • Petespockets55
                        Paid Member

                        • Dec 2014
                        • 6869

                        #12
                        Originally posted by TPring
                        That sounds like a good idea. Are the steps to take on his website? Can you explain the process a little?

                        I think I have at least a few in this tube so, maybe send in more than one stage [if possible] once I figure out what I have?
                        Part of his reply to my inquiry in Dec. 2019- (Email him first before sending anything.)

                        "Please email me at jameswiles@sbcglobal.net before sending coins, in order to make sure that I am available and don't have a large backlog. Your patience is appreciated as summer travels and holidays usually slow down turnaround times dramatically. Normally turnaround times run 2-3 weeks, but under adverse conditions can take 6-8 weeks.
                        You may send up to 10 coins at a time. Always use insured or registered mail with insurance and pack your coins securely either in a bubbled mailer or padded envelope. "

                        I include a letter of all coins I submit and a label in each 2x2 flip with the type of variety I think I'm seeing (DDO, DDR, RPM) and a brief description of the design elements affected, to help streamline the process.

                        But basically, costs for Lincolns are:
                        $10.00/ coin (Plus)
                        Return Postage and Insurance $8.00 per package for the first $100 Ins.
                        (Please add $1.00 for each additional $100 of insurance you desire.)

                        T, Best of luck with any you send in and hope you get good news.
                        It can get pricey, especially if they a TMTL or not a variety, but it is helpful and others benefit, so the effort is worth it in my mind.
                        Cliff

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                        • TPring
                          Paid Member

                          • Sep 2017
                          • 2574

                          #13
                          Originally posted by jfines69
                          Very interesting... Your pics are a little to washed out to tell for sure but I think you are correct for VVs 002??? Take a closer look at your date and compare the die scratches to Stage B... It looks like you have several that match??? Inside the 9, off the 4s angle bar and inside the 5s lower loop??? Yours may be an early Stage B??? The die scratches are not there on the Stage A or C!!!

                          Thanks Jim, you encouraged me to revisit this again -- And it is DDO-2 [provided that similar markers are not from the same hub but different die].

                          Below is a pic of the O in GOD that has two similar markers that were not listed as markers by VV in the stage A pics.
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                          • jfines69
                            Paid Member

                            • Jun 2010
                            • 28504

                            #14
                            Originally posted by TPring
                            Thanks Jim, you encouraged me to revisit this again -- And it is DDO-2 [provided that similar markers are not from the same hub but different die].

                            Below is a pic of the O in GOD that has two similar markers that were not listed as markers by VV in the stage A pics.
                            Thanks for the follow up... I think you nailed the Stage A... In Stage B those abrasions look completely gone... The abrasion next to the O in Stage B is a different shape and angle and is gone in Stage C!!!
                            Jim
                            (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

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