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The Reverse in Pluribus has something going on. I would assume it is MDD with alot of wear. The R and B are the last remnants that it was strong at one point. The U still has a little on the inside. Any Ideas?
CCC
Wheat Cents
03-25-2008, 07:13 PM
It is like the REV die was being over-used and deteriorating.
Nice coin though.
The spread of the O in ONE suggest die deterioration to me too.
Wheat Cents
03-25-2008, 07:37 PM
A very common problem on many early 20s. ( Pushing the die use to the limit )
Thank's guy's. I've never seen die deteriation like that. Just goes to show it comes in many forms.
CCC
trails
03-29-2008, 12:10 PM
I am going to disagree with the die deterioration causing what is seen on this 1920 Lincoln cent.
To be honest with you all, it looks like a case of MDD (both flat field and shearing at the same time). Yes there is indications of die deterioration, especially around UNUM, however, the E in ONE shows indications of flat field doubling. The R and B of PLURIBUS seem to have some pushed metal which may have been caused by shearing (this is seen when the coin sticks to the die and is ripped off the die by the ejection arm) or it may have occurred outside the mint, which maybe the more reasonable explanation.
The die itself appears to be in the early stages of late state or ELDS for while there is some metal flow lines due to erosion of the die, the letters are still fairly sharp and are not overly rounded.
BJ Neff
Trails,
After your statement about MDD, could it have at one time been a DDR? I know that it's hard to telll with my photo's
CCC
Wheat Cents
03-29-2008, 07:40 PM
I do not believe it to be a DDR . I was having trouble reconciling that R and B but after BJ analyisis I think he is right on.
trails
03-31-2008, 06:03 PM
On most wheat cents, the periods become elongated and that is the first clue to a doubled die on the reverse. On your coin, I do not see any indications of that.
BJ Neff